Guide: add key to the Mercedes Benz old (A1645450909) EZS W164 when all keys lost using CGDI Prog MB Key Programmer. With the CGDI MB AC adapter, the data acquisition procedure can be shorten to 9 minutes.

W164 EZS Old A1645450909

CGDI AC Adapter is necessary to faster calculate key password.

Credit to Mr. Edward Markin.

Step 1:  Calculate password

Connect AC Adapter with CGDI MB Auto key Programmer

Open CGDI MB Software

Read EIS data

Go to Compute Password->Copy Key without Key ->Collect Data-> Platform mode

Check old W164 wiring diagram

Insert the simulation key within 1 minutes.
Turn the quick collect adapter (AC adapter) switch to the platform position. Turn the key
to the ignition switch to ON position.

If CGDI prompts data acquisition failure.  Try again.

If still fail to read ezs data, to rotate the simulation key, you need not knock on the EZS

EZS data collection begins

Data collection success after 9 minutes

Save data

Upload the data to calculate password

Press Query Result

Calculate password success

Go to EIS function, paste password to Key password area

Read EIS data again

We read the data from the EZS with a password and save.

Step 2: Generate EE

Generate key dumps from the created EZS file

Generate Key File

Generate key file success and save it

Step 3:  Write Key

Go to Read/Write Key

Insert key into CGDI MB detection coil

Read key/chip

Reset key

Insert new key into EZS, the erased key does not accept the lock

Write the key and check its work

Go to Open/Write Key

Select a key position

Write key success

Now the new key works perfectly.

In general, at the moment CGDI MB is the best device for the money!!!

What users think of CGDI Prog programmer and VVDI Key Tool regarding Mercedes FBS4 key programming.

Real opinions from users:

User 1:

the difference between CGDI and VVDI in FBS4 is as follows:

On one hand,

CGDI MB can read FBS4 keys and knows if its in a working status or key is damaged;

CGDI can read EIS FBS4 and knows if it working or not working; however, VVDI can not Detect FBS4 .

On the other hand,

CGDI never claimed that it can make calculation for FBS4 . Only Read to know the status. Out of the subject No one was Born knowing everything at one point we all asked for questions to know.

User 2:

Both CGDI and Vvdi MB are a great comprehensive solution comparing to what else is available out there.

In my opinion they’re the two best for keys maybe along with Diagspeed but much far ahead than AVDI (for keys).

User 3:

with 655$ i earned 11000€ with cgdi !!! Well with vvdi always must to pay extra to make akl and one more thing ,, the server is very old on vvdi and sometimes have problems like cgdi !!!

So conclusion is only one !!! 655$ comparing with 2000$ its very big difference !!!

User 4:

Both tools are good ,but people don’t know how to use it at full capacity!

User 5:

i read somewhere that cgdi mb tool can make it and it is much cheaper tool from xhorse vvdi mb tool !!

Fbs4 it can read eis ID via obd and read key via IR but that’s it, can’t make a new key or calculate anything.

User 6:

The main difference between cgdi mb and vvdi mb is that, on old Mercedes, cgdi mb is able to OBD program a new key while you have to disassemble EIS to add a new key with vvdi mb tool. That is why you should have a cgdi programmer for mb.

With VVDI MB Tool, you should buy Vvdi prog too, because the are some eis and ecu’s that you cant do with MB Tool independently. For example some w210 eis or Sprinter 906. You should have both, VVDI MB Tool and VVDI prog. Or, if you have to buy some tool again, Simon Touch is the best, but its more expensive.

But if you have a CGDI MB, you have a chance to program a new key through OBD. All done with a tool. That’s the reason why I bought it.

Look here: CGDI MB key programmer read FBS4 key data successfully!

So there is no tool can do FBS4 key?

No.  With genuine xentry and daimler fbs server.  Makes FBS4 every day via OBD very fast and easy.

Diagspeed announced the dates of FBS4 solution. But not confirmed yet. The Diagspeed has the reputation of being the best in the Mercedes world to make keys, Reset ECU’s and trouble shoot problems that a normal scan tool can not.  It is worth to take a gamble.

Collection of real CGDI Prog MB Mercedes Benz Programmer feedback including copy key with key and copy key without key (all key lost). Many thanks to the real users test and report.

Part 1. Add only key with the option “with key“.

->  W220 first test, Read Blank Key, Read Write Erase key OK, read EZS and Password from Key…works

-> Tested on W212
Read EZS —> OBD work Fine
Calulating PW from EZS —> Work fine Online Server
Key Calculating —> v041 & v051 Work fine online Server
-> Mercedes W212 2010 e250 Petrol Automatic works

->W203 2004 spare key making:

Total time about 13 minute when begining to programming new key. Read pass NEC key by IR and calculate PSW

Key still working after get PSW.

Done in car.

-> Mercedes W221 2010 Facelift S600 V12 works

Click on “Benz monster” on the desktop.

Click on “Load EIS data”

Open the EIS data folder “w221 2010”, here you can see EZS data with generate PW and you can see key generate working!!!

Write key 8 and car can start.

-> W207 on bench OK, 11 minutes

-> W203 2004 spare key making takes about 13 minute when begining to programming new key. Read pass NEC key by IR and calculate PSW

Key still working after get PSW.
Part 2. Program new key with the option “without key” when all key lost.

-> test all key lost on w164, need gateway.

-> Tested w212 ALL KEY LOST !!! In car, done by OBD
Work realy realy good!
Member say:
W212 is from 2012
Read ezs About 30mins
Upload data
Querry
Password given

Read eis info
Paste key password
Save
Then key calculation

Very nice CGDI MB tool ??

-> CGDI Prog work good to do W207 W204 lost keys on bench, use with VVDI cable report by:
Alessandro silva w204 all key lost ok 100 percent.

W204 get data: About hour
PSW W204: 11 minute all key lost in bench with VVDI cable
had VVDI MB and CGDI, CGDI is faster and no problem to get Password:

Test with my W209 545 31 08 on bench as add key: 15mn all done
Trying all key lost, failed. But a friend do with W209 545 05 08 success PSW by IR without gateway

Related Question: I don’t understand when we have CGDI tool working all by OBD why lads want the tool to work on the bench???

Answer: For example if car is some further from workshop and you must spent time driving to the car or customer is just TOO far to drive, so then he can sent EIS or drive by himself bringing EIS it with him at workshop. It’s time saver and what if tool will not work via OBD? You will loose many time driving ex. 30 miles x2. If you have on bench, you can work at your place without risk of wasting time. Also calculating psw at the place of car might last 30 minutes, 1 hour in all keys lost? It’s much time to sit in the car + you have to take care of battery charger. If you have on bench, you can drink a coffee or a beer if you want and enjoy the waiting time
Still no tool which can do all merc by OBD anyway…

-> W203 with W209 EZS all key lost, done in the car about 70mn: Successful.

-> Calculation PSW always the first time, never fail.

W203-EZS209

->Plug USB to computer, software recognise at once. So i take 2 used BE key put in and read. Software say need 12V.

So i plug 12V and read and reset to unused quickly. Will test on bench W209 as key lost later.

CGDI MB tested failure:

CGDI work not on all by OBD
W906 Sprinter don’t work (CGDI Supports W906 only CAN BUS not K-line)
W230 SL55 AMG 2006 don’t work (CGD Supports W230 CAN BUS, you can send EIS and CGDI to factory to add K-line)

Part 3: CGDI MB tokens

This device also work with tokens for password online calculation. what a nice is : free two tokens each day for 6 months.
Feedback: Yesterday test online calculation, very fast, less than minute. And the counter (10) decrease to 9.
Today it become 10 again. So I think for now until 6 months, I can calculate 10 time/day.
Part 4: seems this CGDI MB tool is vvdi clone, or no?

Users already confirm it is not VVDI clone, they open CGDI and say, PCB is complete other than from VVDI and MCU is other than from VVDI !!!

CGDI MB tool update:
After server updated, new software will realease within 2 days with:
[13:43, 7/11/2017] xxxxxx: will update as follows :Calculate erase password, enable password. Erase EIS, enable the password, write EIS data, calculate the current code hopping key track

Conclusion:

If you are hesitating for couple of weeks if it’s worth to but this tool, after plenty of positive opinions, will you decide to order CGDI Benz and will make a test as soon as you get it? I don’t intend to push other Member to Buy CGDI MB, but share what it works and not work.